It is if you win one of the grand prizes. I got touch empathy, I can only feel them when I'm actively in contact with someone.
[Ignoring that he can sense them anyway as a Changeling...
He already knew Astral was naive, or he probably would have been more tactful before, so Gil can buy that he might not know what self loathing is.]
Self loathing is when you hate yourself for some reason. They're not always real or legitimate reason, but the hate's still there. It doesn't go away because of other people, even friends, you have to actively start liking yourself. And a lot of changelings don't, or can't.
My experience as a changeling is extremely different to Coda's. I can't relate to most of their specific experiences at all, definitely not in a way to be able to help them.
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Hate? What is hate? Why does it hurt? Why would anyone want to feel that way regardless of any reason? Coda can't like themself? They don't want to like themself?
I don't understand.
Friendship is meant to help you feel better and less lonely.
When a bad person hurts someone you care about, either on purpose or through malicious ignorance When someone offends you on purpose, or without apologising When someone takes an item you desperately wanted When you're angry and want to hurt someone It's annoyed times a hundred It's full of adrenaline when it's fresh, and bitter in the back of your throat and cold in your stomach when it's old.
[It's fucking poetry apparently.]
And when all of that's focused on yourself, it intensifies. Because you're the bastard that hurt the people you care about. That broke the rules and ruined things for everyone, so you know they feel it too, aimed back at you again and it just. Spirals. It gets bigger over time and it doesn't go away and no one else can MAKE it.
I suggest practicing your awareness of where your heart ends and others' begin. If you know the intricacies of your own heart and how you feel, it's much easier to pick them through the undercurrent of what isn't. Your experiences influence your emotions, and everyone experiences life differently.
Admittedly, I'm uncertain how it works for someone born with emotions. I was created with an impartial perspective, and was fortunate enough to meet someone who taught me how to feel.
[...well, time to be candid. It was the only way to get usable replies out of this.]
It's really hard not to be, like. Completely overwhelmed by them, to be honest. Feeling other peoples' emotions makes your body think it's feeling them too, and you react the same even when you know better. If someone's panicking, it's hard to breathe, even if I'm not in danger. If someone's sad I'll cry. It's impossible for me to be impartial or rational.
And it happens literally every time I touch someone - the how doesn't matter, it's just skin contact. And coming into summer, completely covering myself up in clothing isn't an option.
It's activated through touch? That is fascinating. Perhaps an adaption from the arcade well aware that you weren't born to possess such an ability?
[There's a moment before there's another response.]
If you show me how to feel hatred so I may better understand Coda, I'm more than willing to help you practice. I'm able to clear my heart if I'm not feeling anything too strongly. Theoretically, if you were to touch me in such a state, you'd feel nothing but yourself.
I can clear people's minds too, actually, I kind of found it by accident. But I can turn off whatever people are feeling for as long as I'm touching them still. Is that, like. A normal empathy thing??
But yeah, I'd be happy to teach you hate, for all of that. [That was going to be. Wild.]
I'm familiar with empathy being used for emotional manipulation. However, it isn't used to turn emotions 'off,' but rather increase what is already present to overwhelm someone and make them easier to control.
I mean, if I can do one I can probably do the other, right? It's manipulation either way. And then practising that to make you feel hate works out for both of us.
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[Ignoring that he can sense them anyway as a Changeling...
He already knew Astral was naive, or he
probablywould have been more tactful before, so Gil can buy that he might not know what self loathing is.]Self loathing is when you hate yourself for some reason. They're not always real or legitimate reason, but the hate's still there. It doesn't go away because of other people, even friends, you have to actively start liking yourself. And a lot of changelings don't, or can't.
My experience as a changeling is extremely different to Coda's. I can't relate to most of their specific experiences at all, definitely not in a way to be able to help them.
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I don't understand.
Friendship is meant to help you feel better and less lonely.
I can't understand.
I don't want Coda to feel that way.
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Okay so
uh
[Christ, where do you even begin.]
Hate is...
When a bad person hurts someone you care about, either on purpose or through malicious ignorance
When someone offends you on purpose, or without apologising
When someone takes an item you desperately wanted
When you're angry and want to hurt someone
It's annoyed times a hundred
It's full of adrenaline when it's fresh, and bitter in the back of your throat and cold in your stomach when it's old.
[It's fucking poetry apparently.]
And when all of that's focused on yourself, it intensifies. Because you're the bastard that hurt the people you care about. That broke the rules and ruined things for everyone, so you know they feel it too, aimed back at you again and it just. Spirals. It gets bigger over time and it doesn't go away and no one else can MAKE it.
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I just wanna make sure you don't have false hope about being able to "fix" them.
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Is it okay if I ask you something too?
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I suggest practicing your awareness of where your heart ends and others' begin. If you know the intricacies of your own heart and how you feel, it's much easier to pick them through the undercurrent of what isn't. Your experiences influence your emotions, and everyone experiences life differently.
Admittedly, I'm uncertain how it works for someone born with emotions. I was created with an impartial perspective, and was fortunate enough to meet someone who taught me how to feel.
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It's really hard not to be, like. Completely overwhelmed by them, to be honest. Feeling other peoples' emotions makes your body think it's feeling them too, and you react the same even when you know better. If someone's panicking, it's hard to breathe, even if I'm not in danger. If someone's sad I'll cry. It's impossible for me to be impartial or rational.
And it happens literally every time I touch someone - the how doesn't matter, it's just skin contact. And coming into summer, completely covering myself up in clothing isn't an option.
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[There's a moment before there's another response.]
If you show me how to feel hatred so I may better understand Coda, I'm more than willing to help you practice. I'm able to clear my heart if I'm not feeling anything too strongly. Theoretically, if you were to touch me in such a state, you'd feel nothing but yourself.
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I can clear people's minds too, actually, I kind of found it by accident. But I can turn off whatever people are feeling for as long as I'm touching them still. Is that, like. A normal empathy thing??
But yeah, I'd be happy to teach you hate, for all of that. [That was going to be. Wild.]
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It's not something I can do.
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Thank you.